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This is just a scratch page for me to send the Retro AIM Server project on supported 3rd party AIM clients I've tested
This is just a scratch page for me to send the Retro AIM Server project on supported 3rd party AIM clients I've tested


Currently testing is done under Ubuntu 5.04 (i386) because 4.10 had weird SMP issues in Proxmox
Windows testing is done on a Windows XP (32-bit) virtual machine with all updates applied 


This test isn't likely to be 100% coverage because I'm not going to test *every build* of every client. But just act as a guide
Mac testing is done on OS X 10.6.8 via Proxmox
 
Linux testing is done on Ubuntu 5.04 (32-bit) via Proxmox but may be augmented in future with different distros
 
'''All testing was performed on [[Compu-Global-Hyper-Mega-Net|CGHMN]] to simplify packet captures. IP addresses do not reflect the ones used by regular RAS clients but CGHMN is connected to ChivaNet/RAS'''
 
This test isn't likely to be 100% coverage because I'm not going to test *every build* of every client. But should give users a general direction for further testing
 
Submissions are also welcome. Please feel free to email me or send me a message on Mastodon


== TESTED WORKING ==
== TESTED WORKING ==
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Regular AIM. Pretty much all of these up to 6.1 (at time of writing) are tested and working. 6.1 should work on everything from Windows 9x/NT 4.0 through to Windows 11
Regular AIM. Pretty much all of these up to 6.1 (at time of writing) are tested and working. 6.1 should work on everything from Windows 9x/NT 4.0 through to Windows 11


AIM 1.5 also works on Windows 3.11 with Win32s. AIM 1.7 refuses to install (requires Win95) but may also work under 3.11 with some tweaking (untested)
AIM 1.5 also works on Windows 3.11 with Win32s


=== Mac ===
=== Mac ===
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Adium 1.3.10 (x86) works! (PPC untested but presumed working)
Adium 1.3.10 (x86) works! (PPC untested but presumed working)
iChat 3.1.9 on OS X 10.4.11 (Tiger) PPC works!


iChat 5.0.3 on OS X 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) x86 works!
iChat 5.0.3 on OS X 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) x86 works!


=== Linux gAIM 1.1.4 (Ubuntu 5.04) works. Though users will show as offline to other client(s) for several minutes. [https://github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-server/issues/123#issuecomment-2933138905 Bug filed] ===
iChat on OS X Leopard (PPC or x86 unspecified) works!
TiK 0.90 (Ubuntu 5.04) works! Though needs to be run as root for some strange reason?
 
AIM 4.7 for OS 9 (PPC) works!
 
=== Linux ===
GAIM 1.1.4 (Ubuntu 5.04) works. Though users will show as offline to other client(s) for several minutes. [https://github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-server/issues/123#issuecomment-2933138905 Bug filed]
 
TiK 0.90 (Ubuntu 5.04) works! Though needs to be run as root for some reason?


== TESTED '''NOT''' WORKING ==
== TESTED '''NOT''' WORKING ==


=== Windows ===
Miranda 0.10.80 - Queries '''slogin.oscar.aol.com''' (fixed) but fails to connect. No errors printed by the client. Client also corrupts its database file if exited and relaunched - [https://cursedsilicon.net/aim-packet-dumps/ Packet dump available here]
=== Mac ===
Adium 1.4.5 - Queries '''api.screenname.aol.com''' (fixed) and attempts to connect over HTTPS. Fails due to no SSL support currently - [https://cursedsilicon.net/aim-packet-dumps/ Packet dump available here]


'''Windows'''
AIM 2.1.302 - Queries '''clienturls.aol.com AND aoldiag.aol.com''' (fixed). Attempts to connect over HTTPS. Fails due to no SSL support currently -  [https://cursedsilicon.net/aim-packet-dumps/ Packet dump available here]


Miranda 0.10.80 - Queries '''slogin.oscar.aol.com''' (fixed) but fails to connect. No errors printed by the client. Client also corrupts its database file if exited and relaunched - Packet dump available here
AIM 2.2.439 - Queries '''kdc.uas.aol.com''' (fixed) Attempts to connect over HTTPS. Fails due to no SSL support currently -  [https://cursedsilicon.net/aim-packet-dumps/ Packet dump available here]


'''Mac'''
=== Linux ===
Ayttm 0.4.6-26 - Fails to connect to '''toc.oscar.aol.com''' (fixed) then returns 400 bad request from Nginx(?) - [https://cursedsilicon.net/aim-packet-dumps/ Packet dump available here]


Adium 1.4.5 - Queries '''api.screenname.aol.com''' (fixed) and attempts to connect over HTTPS. Fails due to no SSL support currently - Packet dump available here
Centreicq 4.13.0 - I have no goddamn idea how to use this client. But it seems to do...something? then eventually just shows '''[aim] disconnected''' - [https://cursedsilicon.net/aim-packet-dumps/ Packet dump available here]


Kopete 0.10 - Attempts to connect but never completes. No errors reported from client - [https://cursedsilicon.net/aim-packet-dumps/ Packet dump available here]


'''Linux'''
naim 0.11.7.2 - '''Seems to connect to its own TOC server toc.n.ml.org (???)''' (fixed) but fails to connect. Client logging enabled but did not produce any log files - [https://cursedsilicon.net/aim-packet-dumps/ Packet dump available here]


Ayttm 0.4.6-26 - Fails to connect to '''toc.oscar.aol.com''' (fixed) then returns 400 bad request from Nginx(?) - Packet dump available here
=== AmigaOS/MorphOS ===
nAIM 0.11.8.3.1 for AmigaOS - Also connects to its own TOC server '''(toc.n.ml.org)''' (DNS patched already previously for testing) but fails to connect similar to Linux client. Client did not produce any log files. [https://cursedsilicon.net/aim-packet-dumps/ Packet dump available here]


Centreicq 4.13.0 - I have no goddamn idea how to use this client. But it seems to do...something? then eventually just shows '''[aim] disconnected''' - Packet dump available here
AmiAIM 0.11 for AmigaOS. Fails to connect, invalid username/password error. [https://cursedsilicon.net/aim-packet-dumps/ Packet dump available here]


Kopete 0.10 - Attempts to connect but never completes. No errors reported from client - Packet dump available here


naim 0.11.7.2 - '''Seems to connect to its own TOC server toc.n.ml.org (???)''' (fixed) but fails to connect. Client logging enabled but did not produce any log files - Packet dump available here




== UNTESTED ==
== UNTESTED ==





Latest revision as of 20:11, 27 June 2025

This is just a scratch page for me to send the Retro AIM Server project on supported 3rd party AIM clients I've tested

Windows testing is done on a Windows XP (32-bit) virtual machine with all updates applied

Mac testing is done on OS X 10.6.8 via Proxmox

Linux testing is done on Ubuntu 5.04 (32-bit) via Proxmox but may be augmented in future with different distros

All testing was performed on CGHMN to simplify packet captures. IP addresses do not reflect the ones used by regular RAS clients but CGHMN is connected to ChivaNet/RAS

This test isn't likely to be 100% coverage because I'm not going to test *every build* of every client. But should give users a general direction for further testing

Submissions are also welcome. Please feel free to email me or send me a message on Mastodon

TESTED WORKING

Windows

Regular AIM. Pretty much all of these up to 6.1 (at time of writing) are tested and working. 6.1 should work on everything from Windows 9x/NT 4.0 through to Windows 11

AIM 1.5 also works on Windows 3.11 with Win32s

Mac

Adium X 1.0.6 (x86) works! (PPC untested but presumed working)

Adium 1.3.10 (x86) works! (PPC untested but presumed working)

iChat 3.1.9 on OS X 10.4.11 (Tiger) PPC works!

iChat 5.0.3 on OS X 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) x86 works!

iChat on OS X Leopard (PPC or x86 unspecified) works!

AIM 4.7 for OS 9 (PPC) works!

Linux

GAIM 1.1.4 (Ubuntu 5.04) works. Though users will show as offline to other client(s) for several minutes. Bug filed

TiK 0.90 (Ubuntu 5.04) works! Though needs to be run as root for some reason?

TESTED NOT WORKING

Windows

Miranda 0.10.80 - Queries slogin.oscar.aol.com (fixed) but fails to connect. No errors printed by the client. Client also corrupts its database file if exited and relaunched - Packet dump available here

Mac

Adium 1.4.5 - Queries api.screenname.aol.com (fixed) and attempts to connect over HTTPS. Fails due to no SSL support currently - Packet dump available here

AIM 2.1.302 - Queries clienturls.aol.com AND aoldiag.aol.com (fixed). Attempts to connect over HTTPS. Fails due to no SSL support currently - Packet dump available here

AIM 2.2.439 - Queries kdc.uas.aol.com (fixed) Attempts to connect over HTTPS. Fails due to no SSL support currently - Packet dump available here

Linux

Ayttm 0.4.6-26 - Fails to connect to toc.oscar.aol.com (fixed) then returns 400 bad request from Nginx(?) - Packet dump available here

Centreicq 4.13.0 - I have no goddamn idea how to use this client. But it seems to do...something? then eventually just shows [aim] disconnected - Packet dump available here

Kopete 0.10 - Attempts to connect but never completes. No errors reported from client - Packet dump available here

naim 0.11.7.2 - Seems to connect to its own TOC server toc.n.ml.org (???) (fixed) but fails to connect. Client logging enabled but did not produce any log files - Packet dump available here

AmigaOS/MorphOS

nAIM 0.11.8.3.1 for AmigaOS - Also connects to its own TOC server (toc.n.ml.org) (DNS patched already previously for testing) but fails to connect similar to Linux client. Client did not produce any log files. Packet dump available here

AmiAIM 0.11 for AmigaOS. Fails to connect, invalid username/password error. Packet dump available here



UNTESTED

Adium X 0.89.1 - Fails to launch on OS X 10.6.8 (x86)

iChat v??? on OS X 10.7 (Lion) was the final client revision is currently untested as I cannot get it to successfully boot under Proxmox

Finch - Seems to be a plugin for Pidgin(?) to enable text mode chat instead of using a GUI?

Instantbird - Originally a Pidgin plugin. Later became its own stand-alone client. Development halted in 2013(?) with download servers unavailable. Downloaded final v1.5 via 3rd party FTP server but was unable to launch due to missing dependencies on Ubuntu 5.04

Jitsi - Cannot find old versions. Application seems to be more geared toward SIP and video conferencing?

Messages - Beta version was released for OS X 10.7 which I can't run under Proxmox currently

Quiet Internet Pager - Seems like possible malware? Judging by the quality of its Wikipedia page. Final version also was for PDA's instead of Windows(???)

TNT - Probably works? Last updated in 2006 and claims to support the "TOC2 protocol" (OSCAR?). But it's an Emacs client. I don't know how to use Emacs, let alone add AIM to it

VSide. Looks like a weird...SecondLife knockoff? Development halted in 2018 but it was never a messaging client. Just had AIM support attached to it